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For an ideology so taboo as National Socialism, it was pretty much impossible in the pre-internet era for a movement centered around it to result in anything but disaster. The amount of lumpens outweighs the amount of intellectually curious dissidents enough for the former to comprise the bulk of self-identifying Nazis. They are interested in it because they're disagreeable and misanthropic, but most of them would have a hard time even giving you a consistent definition of National Socialism that doesn't float off into vibe-world. An ethnostate of these "Wignats" would possibly be as dysfunctional as Black Africa, not because of the failures of Nazism but because of the lack of human capital. But people would interpret it as the product of Ideology.

I think today, with the internet, it is less of a problem. Nazis went from being seen as blond beasts with thick accents and combovers, to tatted up meth-addicted prison skinheads, to edgy teenagers. People are easier exposed to taboo information on the internet. There's still a lumpen element in the radical scene, but most people come into the far-right because they got "redpilled". But this is both a blessing and a curse, because the online right-wing space has basically taken that position of fantasy world that hypothetical post-apocalyptic ethnostates. Social media is basically an MMORPG at this point. Being racist online is a way a lot of guys like to wind down and relax after a long day at school or at the office. It allows for a lot more well-adjusted people to participate in far-right movements but makes real-world action less likely. You don't have to have nothing to lose anymore to get involved in these movements, you just have to be willing to live a bit of a double life.

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I know some people are going to soyrage over "deradicalize" because they think it means throwing away your beliefs, but the purpose of NS was never to be the most radical. If you want to be the most radical, stop showering and become a black schizophrenic fentanyl addict, you can't get more radical than that. If your goal is instead to save your country no matter what, then you are going to have to start liking some of your countryman. Liking people is genuinely hard, because of how far gone most people are and on some level I still want the apocalypse option, but with zero signs of a civil war brewing in our life time (at least on true pro-white grounds) I think we have no choice but to get away from the violent retard image the purity spiraling right has been cultivating. I saw some groyper shot his parents in Wisconsin because he was going to try to kill Trump and "save the white race" how do you save the white race by killing 3 white people?

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