An essay that enlightens (the mind), edifies (the spirit), and entertains (the sacred). I'm a life-long Christian, raised Lutheran (Missouri Synod), received into the Catholic Church in 2014 whilst serving as a U.S. Foreign Service Officer in the Middle East. Well aware (and long before I became Catholic) of all the baggage of the institutional church (small "c" Catholic). However, greatly appreciate your most thoughtful piece. Continued success in your writing and good endeavors.
Ultimately I think the church is more pliable than it seems and it comes down to the worldview those who become priests grow up with and what kind of information they get. I dont imagine the Pope sits in front of a computer and does research on crime statistics but every day he's told by people that in America they do these horrible cruel things for no reason and in Europe they plan on doing the same!
Even the Catholic social teaching and focus on the masses was very different initially. Bishop Kettler, one of its founders, was a man unimaginable to modern Catholics who said the hardest loss when taking his vows was giving up his gun and was decidedly against Papal Infallibility in V1 (There are claims that the Pope begged on his knees not to publish his opinions but he refused)
As a Catholic I feel justified in disregarding these opinions because I already know that the church will change her opinion, thus hope for the future is my shield. In the meantime go ahead and dissolve all these bishops conferences and NGO's, good riddance!
Regarding “the defense of our nation" i think the Dominican republic is a good model.
In order to avoid the outright satanism of the haitians, the dominicans pledged themselves and their republic to st Dominic.
Note that this is a devotional matter, not a theological one. The vatican cannot typically control the activities of saint-cults, which without fail have buy-in from the local aristocracy and the churchmen of a given nation.
Saint-cults thus form temporal patronage networks, and as local churchmen make money off of it they can in turn buy off the vatican. Along with the divine right of kings, saint-cults create a justification for the nation in spiritual terms, giving the vatican a justifucation for antibiotics the defense of the nation as a matter of the defense of the church.
Further, we should note that america's “civic cult” is already so weak that it's quite likely that the vatican's advancement of immigration is likely an expression of american pieties. The church only damns america ethnic integrity because the pieties of the american establishment, the aristocracy of our NGOs and venal offices, already hold the damnation of american ethne as a pious belief.
The priest is like the jew, he only sells your own values back to you. The jew charges a 5% markup, but the priest is willing to settle for a confession and mass attendance. He lets other people worry about extracting donations from you.
To be entirely blunt, it seems to me that the values of Christianity are, in a more general sense, largely incompatible with the values of the political right. The very concept of a "people" as a coherent group is borderline antithetical to church teaching. If the Catholics are the most egregious in dismantling such groups, it's perhaps due less to some fundamental doctrinal distinction between them and other Christian denominations, so much as it's they who have the largest and most effective political apparatus with which they can impose their will. I see no future for these so-called "traditionalists."
The church is actually very interested in the concept of the nations. The “jew and the greek.” The gentile and the church as a true israel under christ’s kingship. The laity as the goyim.
But the american people have no sanctification for their nation. They have no divine right of kings, and cannit sanctify their existence by such a king's charisma. They need a different kind of ancestral charisma.
I keep coming back to what feels like a horseshoe pattern on open borders. The biggest players backing immigration‑expansionist causes over the last 10–15 years seem to fall into two camps: on one side, actors driven by moral, humanitarian, or progressive frameworks; on the other, actors motivated by labor supply, market growth, demographics, and stability. They’re not coordinating and they often don’t share a worldview, but they keep landing in the same place policy‑wise. What your piece underlines is that the contemporary Church sits firmly on the ‘moral’ side of that horseshoe, yet its practical effect is to converge with the market and NGO side in producing the same de facto open‑borders outcome.
Two Swords is interesting. 6th Guru Sahib wore 2 Swords and thus, any Sikh government is politically and spiritually subordinate to the Khalsa. Secure power = no incentive to import migrants?
Perhaps matters in the temporal sphere will overtake any heretical meddling by Leo and the rest … globalism is dead in America and if there’s a replacement at all it will be naked 🇺🇸 Empire.
On an administrative note
I really think 🇺🇸we should buy back the Vatican bank, FBV fair bank value is $700~$900 million.
Yes of course it was 🇺🇸us, Francis Spellman,
Paul Marcinkus were American.
The Vatican is a Deep State Globalist skinsuit that hasn’t gotten the word on Globalism is done.
Yet another Cold War op that’s gotten totally out of hand and blowing back in our face.
We can finish off Globalism and see how it goes, globalism may die with the Boomers.
The notion of installing either Vance or Rubio as Pope has of course precedents … in the meantime they really must be made Knights of Malta.
Leo is frail, perhaps another embassy from Vance will allow a smoother transition for all. There’s ample precedent for this as well.
I’m heartened to hear Vance is Catholic. Such respect for tradition sending one of our own.
The Church started as the enemy of the State, and it ends as an enemy of the State…poetic.
What if we tried wishcasting harder?
Unironically that's how spiritual warfare works.
An essay that enlightens (the mind), edifies (the spirit), and entertains (the sacred). I'm a life-long Christian, raised Lutheran (Missouri Synod), received into the Catholic Church in 2014 whilst serving as a U.S. Foreign Service Officer in the Middle East. Well aware (and long before I became Catholic) of all the baggage of the institutional church (small "c" Catholic). However, greatly appreciate your most thoughtful piece. Continued success in your writing and good endeavors.
Ultimately I think the church is more pliable than it seems and it comes down to the worldview those who become priests grow up with and what kind of information they get. I dont imagine the Pope sits in front of a computer and does research on crime statistics but every day he's told by people that in America they do these horrible cruel things for no reason and in Europe they plan on doing the same!
Even the Catholic social teaching and focus on the masses was very different initially. Bishop Kettler, one of its founders, was a man unimaginable to modern Catholics who said the hardest loss when taking his vows was giving up his gun and was decidedly against Papal Infallibility in V1 (There are claims that the Pope begged on his knees not to publish his opinions but he refused)
As a Catholic I feel justified in disregarding these opinions because I already know that the church will change her opinion, thus hope for the future is my shield. In the meantime go ahead and dissolve all these bishops conferences and NGO's, good riddance!
Regarding “the defense of our nation" i think the Dominican republic is a good model.
In order to avoid the outright satanism of the haitians, the dominicans pledged themselves and their republic to st Dominic.
Note that this is a devotional matter, not a theological one. The vatican cannot typically control the activities of saint-cults, which without fail have buy-in from the local aristocracy and the churchmen of a given nation.
Saint-cults thus form temporal patronage networks, and as local churchmen make money off of it they can in turn buy off the vatican. Along with the divine right of kings, saint-cults create a justification for the nation in spiritual terms, giving the vatican a justifucation for antibiotics the defense of the nation as a matter of the defense of the church.
Further, we should note that america's “civic cult” is already so weak that it's quite likely that the vatican's advancement of immigration is likely an expression of american pieties. The church only damns america ethnic integrity because the pieties of the american establishment, the aristocracy of our NGOs and venal offices, already hold the damnation of american ethne as a pious belief.
The priest is like the jew, he only sells your own values back to you. The jew charges a 5% markup, but the priest is willing to settle for a confession and mass attendance. He lets other people worry about extracting donations from you.
To be entirely blunt, it seems to me that the values of Christianity are, in a more general sense, largely incompatible with the values of the political right. The very concept of a "people" as a coherent group is borderline antithetical to church teaching. If the Catholics are the most egregious in dismantling such groups, it's perhaps due less to some fundamental doctrinal distinction between them and other Christian denominations, so much as it's they who have the largest and most effective political apparatus with which they can impose their will. I see no future for these so-called "traditionalists."
Some interesting stuff in here.
https://flowingstream.substack.com/p/orthodoxy-and-the-nation?
The church is actually very interested in the concept of the nations. The “jew and the greek.” The gentile and the church as a true israel under christ’s kingship. The laity as the goyim.
But the american people have no sanctification for their nation. They have no divine right of kings, and cannit sanctify their existence by such a king's charisma. They need a different kind of ancestral charisma.
Vox is jewed out. Also weren't you a pagan? The rest of the article is fine
Anyone who trusts the Church or calls the Pope 'based' I immediately assume is insanely retarded and should be thrown in a tar pit.
I keep coming back to what feels like a horseshoe pattern on open borders. The biggest players backing immigration‑expansionist causes over the last 10–15 years seem to fall into two camps: on one side, actors driven by moral, humanitarian, or progressive frameworks; on the other, actors motivated by labor supply, market growth, demographics, and stability. They’re not coordinating and they often don’t share a worldview, but they keep landing in the same place policy‑wise. What your piece underlines is that the contemporary Church sits firmly on the ‘moral’ side of that horseshoe, yet its practical effect is to converge with the market and NGO side in producing the same de facto open‑borders outcome.
Two Swords is interesting. 6th Guru Sahib wore 2 Swords and thus, any Sikh government is politically and spiritually subordinate to the Khalsa. Secure power = no incentive to import migrants?
Perhaps matters in the temporal sphere will overtake any heretical meddling by Leo and the rest … globalism is dead in America and if there’s a replacement at all it will be naked 🇺🇸 Empire.
On an administrative note
I really think 🇺🇸we should buy back the Vatican bank, FBV fair bank value is $700~$900 million.
Yes of course it was 🇺🇸us, Francis Spellman,
Paul Marcinkus were American.
The Vatican is a Deep State Globalist skinsuit that hasn’t gotten the word on Globalism is done.
Yet another Cold War op that’s gotten totally out of hand and blowing back in our face.
We can finish off Globalism and see how it goes, globalism may die with the Boomers.
The notion of installing either Vance or Rubio as Pope has of course precedents … in the meantime they really must be made Knights of Malta.
Leo is frail, perhaps another embassy from Vance will allow a smoother transition for all. There’s ample precedent for this as well.
I’m heartened to hear Vance is Catholic. Such respect for tradition sending one of our own.