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Krug's avatar

I have already liked and restacked this post. But I reread it today and I wanted to comment how much I appreciate you writing this. This is a wonderful article.

Layne A. Jackson's avatar

Why were there so many of these guys concentrated in 1890s-ish Germany? Why didn’t we see a similar grouping in any other Western European country?

Gildhelm's avatar

I have never been able to produce a rational explanation other than it being a gradual conclusion of the Romantics. I do know that Troy was excavated in 1870, and it was here that Germany discovered and was possessed by the Swastika

Aodhan MacMhaolain's avatar

I do think there are analogues in other places, but none of them even begin to compare to the Germans.

Assmanietzski's avatar

Nietzsche credited the cold Hyporborean spirit nascent in the Protestant religion. The Protestant religion, he wrote, was the most rationalizing form of Christianity, extinguishing the Apollonian light of the Mediterranean which lived on in the Catholic Church. Thus, although he found it more detestable than Catholicism, the cold Hyporborean spirit, by adopting Protestantism, had put Germany on a collision path with the "death of God" and with the "European Buddhism" of the Last Man, forcing people like Nietzsche to conduct a "revaluation of all values," a tension which is found in Nietzsche and his inspiration, Schopenhauer. Thus, Nietzche wrote, "Schopenhauer's pessimissm has become an incentive to reverse his value judgements: what he said No to, we say Yes to."

Layne A. Jackson's avatar

Where can I read more about Nietzsche’s view of Protestantism? I assume he never wrote about Orthodoxy

Assmanietzski's avatar

Nietzsche never wrote extensively on the Orthodox Church, but he does make short mentions of it in the "Antichrist" and several other books where, surprisingly, he praises it for retaining the hierarchical, mysterious, and cult-like form of ancient Greek cults. He also admired the barbarian spirit of Eastern Europe, considering Western Europe to be over-civilized and over-spiritualized, claiming to be of noble Polish descent in the Madness Letters. As for Protestantism, Nietzsche wrote about it very extensively, as the tension between his intellectual curiosity and his devout Lutheran background (his father was a minister and Nietzsche initially studied to become a minister) is the main psychological catalyst of his famous philosophy. So, you can pick up pretty much any book by Nietzsche and find very extensive and venomous attacks on Protestantism.

Blackbeard Philosopher's avatar

thx for this!

Blackbeard Philosopher's avatar

sir, would you be willing to do an audio or written interview on this huge PROBLEM?

https://blackbeardphilosopher.substack.com/p/the-boredom-of-the-gods

drawing on whatever you deem relevant, both in and outside philosophy

if so, please email to blackbeardphilosopher@proton.me

thank you

Letters from the Iron Age's avatar

This was an awesome read, I have actually never heard of Klages before this and I am very glad to have read this article and definitely will be rereading it. It is affirming to me that I have independently (though obviously influenced by the thought of Klages' philosophical progeny) had many of these ideas, as life as dreaming. Dreaming is the bud of the flower that all the roots and stems and effort work towards. And the spirit (intellect) as detractor of life. Yes, it is the killer and sickness of our time that logos is our god, but I wonder how we live without it. All we know how to do is build that tower of babel and hope it doesn't collapse. Thanks for writing this, very much enjoyed it.

Sectionalism's avatar

It is correct that the soul (psyche) and body are intertwined, and that the spirit is something else, but without the spirit both the soul and the body have no existence and certainly nothing which can honestly be called "life".... That's just my opinion though.

Assmanietzski's avatar

Life is a feeling.