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One thing I really appreciate about this piece is the pushback against the modern tendency to reduce ancient religion—especially the Greeks—to a kind of proto-scientific rationalism. There’s something important in recovering the fact that religious life, for them, was often immediate, affective, and at times overwhelming. That dimension does feel underrepresented in how we talk about both ancient and modern faith.

That said, I wonder if the pendulum swings a bit too far in equating the divine primarily with the irrational or ecstatic. A Pauline reading of Christian experience seems to preserve both inspiration and agency. In First Epistle to the Corinthians 14:32, Paul explicitly says “the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets,” which suggests that even in genuinely spiritual moments, the individual is not overtaken or displaced, but remains responsible and self-aware. Likewise, the “fruit of the Spirit” in Epistle to the Galatians includes self-control, which feels like an important counterpoint to the idea that divine encounter necessarily entails loss of control.

Personally, I don’t read this as a call to suppress emotional or ecstatic experience, nor to retreat into hyper-rationalism. Rather, it seems to point toward a kind of balance: that a person can be moved, inspired, even deeply affected, while still remaining in control—able to weigh what is heard, seen, and experienced against what is true, and then decide how to respond. In that sense, the presence of discernment doesn’t diminish the experience; it gives it form and direction.

So perhaps the distinction isn’t simply rational vs. irrational, but between different kinds of experience—those that overwhelm and fragment the self, and those that engage and transform it without erasing it. The ancient world may help us recover the reality of encounter, but the New Testament seems to insist that such encounters are not purely chaotic—they are also ordered, discernible, and participatory.

Curious how you’d reconcile that tension.

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