I admit I am somewhat biased here: I have been entirely convinced by the, for the lack of a better term, "vitalist" faction of the right. I credit, above and beyond anyone else, Nietzsche and BAP for getting me to move out, work out and get a damn life rather than just sit around rotting in my parents house until the end of time. Vitalism offers an essentially positive vision of the future; a vision in which life is free to grow, exhaust itself and flourish. It is the antithesis of all things conservative.
Benjamin's comment about welfare protecting men from the consequences of their actions is one of the most flagrantly absurd, utterly braindead things I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Frankly, the man strikes me as a closeted leftist. He has no meaningful dispute with the left: he merely wants to co-opt their political apparatus so as to impose his own preferred morality onto young people. He's a gerontocrat.
It truly is a shame that Nietzscheanism and vitalism have so little influence over the mainstream right (yet, hopefully). Some fine fellows like Juden Peterstein did a fine job of shitting in the well of future discourse by trying to draw elements of the disaffected youth into the warm embrace of Christianity during his time in the sun.
Young men definitely deserve better, far better, than any of the time-worn nonsense that the churches can offer. The church itself often being ideologically captured in a Gramscian fashion, or suffering from the typical malaise of cuckservatism as mentioned. The closest thing I can think of to an alternative for the disaffected young man is active clubs, as these often act as a means to allow men to fulfill their vitalistic impulses while being freed from the rot of contemporary institutions.
Reading your article I was reminded of Mishima's Runaway Horses, where Isao's father resents the youthful energy and strength of his son, and undermines his efforts to restore the emperor through an act of terrorism. The youth pastor has many parallels. Isao's father ran a patriotic school for young men, wherein extreme RW thought could burgeon, but when it was about to utilize some freedom by actually doing something, the panicked father shut it down by getting the police to shut down the terror cell to-be. Similarly, the church could ultimately become a bastion for powerful RW organization &c, however it is too paralyzed by its fears of any useful freedom, and would prefer its lambs remain forever lambs.
What troubles me is whether the right will adhere excessively to Christianity as the proper "tradition" of the West, for this will surely not fail to perpetuate the cycle, and shall undoubtedly keep us trapped in an interminable Kali Yuga. Anyways, let us hope the youth will not be led astray by the ravages of the Christian pastor nor the lures of pornography, but rather that a Vital spirit of rebellion will awaken and spread.
Fantastic article even though I find myself torn in sympathies. I understand where the youth pastors are coming from tbh.
I too want a virtuous society of strong men and women. I hate pornography, drugs, and hook up culture and see them as a poison the enemy has used against us. I have seen the frozen grief, sterility, and pain caused by the sexual revolution. I want young men and women to marry early and be faithful to one another. I see no civilizing value in promiscuity or mindless hedonism.
The fundamental problem as others have pointed out is that the youth pastors are uninspiring cucks and simps. To put it very bluntly. They want to fix a rotten structure by giving it a new coat of paint. The moral majority people tried all of these tactics back in the 1980s. You can’t whip young men into family formation until you make marriage real again. These youth pastor people don’t want half measures they don’t want to go all the way of dismantling liberal feminism and the unearned power given to women.
It’s hard to tell a young man to get married and sacrifice when you tell young women men should be “servant leaders.” That men must be perpetually enslaved to be simple providers with no reciprocal obligations from his wife. She doesn’t have to listen to her husband or even do anything for him if she doesn’t feel like it. That she can cheat, abuse, and divorce him whenever she wants.
Young women are allowed to sleep around and be hypergamous, vain, shallow, and unpleasant but young men must always “man up” and rescue them. It’s always the same thing from the youth pastor right types. Men are the problem and women are beyond criticism. The intelligent young man will immediately see that the “based trad” religious right is just another type of submission to women.
On top of this the whole Christian religion is completely zombified and only the most annoying online personalities pretend revival is around the corner. They don’t understand passion of the anima in men and as you said hate desire it itself. The life denying strain of Christianity runs as strong as ever.
This is too long but anyway great article Gildhelm.
Christianity is just a tool. It's not going anywhere. It's useless because it was supposed to be useless. Priests and jews just sell your own values back to you. If they're working to destroy your society, it's because your society decided that it had no charisma, and that destroying itself was holy.
If your society can be destroyed simply by amplifying your own society's values, your values are ... unsound. You need the divine right of kings. Charisma.spiritual gifts. Magic. Christianity is somewhat useful for arriving at these things.
These words from the vitalists I find more inspiring than any self-negating commandment. From the school marms, to the priests, they always seek to diminish or smother me with their rules.
“A subtle change in messaging is therefore suggested to the political movements of today, which is entirely achievable: for the first time in generations, permit, encourage, and allow young men to breathe. That is, to express itself for what it ought and wills, to actually be alive as this word is properly understood. In return for this, they will follow you to the stars.”
I admit I am somewhat biased here: I have been entirely convinced by the, for the lack of a better term, "vitalist" faction of the right. I credit, above and beyond anyone else, Nietzsche and BAP for getting me to move out, work out and get a damn life rather than just sit around rotting in my parents house until the end of time. Vitalism offers an essentially positive vision of the future; a vision in which life is free to grow, exhaust itself and flourish. It is the antithesis of all things conservative.
Benjamin's comment about welfare protecting men from the consequences of their actions is one of the most flagrantly absurd, utterly braindead things I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Frankly, the man strikes me as a closeted leftist. He has no meaningful dispute with the left: he merely wants to co-opt their political apparatus so as to impose his own preferred morality onto young people. He's a gerontocrat.
Brilliant article, as usual!
It truly is a shame that Nietzscheanism and vitalism have so little influence over the mainstream right (yet, hopefully). Some fine fellows like Juden Peterstein did a fine job of shitting in the well of future discourse by trying to draw elements of the disaffected youth into the warm embrace of Christianity during his time in the sun.
Young men definitely deserve better, far better, than any of the time-worn nonsense that the churches can offer. The church itself often being ideologically captured in a Gramscian fashion, or suffering from the typical malaise of cuckservatism as mentioned. The closest thing I can think of to an alternative for the disaffected young man is active clubs, as these often act as a means to allow men to fulfill their vitalistic impulses while being freed from the rot of contemporary institutions.
Reading your article I was reminded of Mishima's Runaway Horses, where Isao's father resents the youthful energy and strength of his son, and undermines his efforts to restore the emperor through an act of terrorism. The youth pastor has many parallels. Isao's father ran a patriotic school for young men, wherein extreme RW thought could burgeon, but when it was about to utilize some freedom by actually doing something, the panicked father shut it down by getting the police to shut down the terror cell to-be. Similarly, the church could ultimately become a bastion for powerful RW organization &c, however it is too paralyzed by its fears of any useful freedom, and would prefer its lambs remain forever lambs.
What troubles me is whether the right will adhere excessively to Christianity as the proper "tradition" of the West, for this will surely not fail to perpetuate the cycle, and shall undoubtedly keep us trapped in an interminable Kali Yuga. Anyways, let us hope the youth will not be led astray by the ravages of the Christian pastor nor the lures of pornography, but rather that a Vital spirit of rebellion will awaken and spread.
Fantastic article even though I find myself torn in sympathies. I understand where the youth pastors are coming from tbh.
I too want a virtuous society of strong men and women. I hate pornography, drugs, and hook up culture and see them as a poison the enemy has used against us. I have seen the frozen grief, sterility, and pain caused by the sexual revolution. I want young men and women to marry early and be faithful to one another. I see no civilizing value in promiscuity or mindless hedonism.
The fundamental problem as others have pointed out is that the youth pastors are uninspiring cucks and simps. To put it very bluntly. They want to fix a rotten structure by giving it a new coat of paint. The moral majority people tried all of these tactics back in the 1980s. You can’t whip young men into family formation until you make marriage real again. These youth pastor people don’t want half measures they don’t want to go all the way of dismantling liberal feminism and the unearned power given to women.
It’s hard to tell a young man to get married and sacrifice when you tell young women men should be “servant leaders.” That men must be perpetually enslaved to be simple providers with no reciprocal obligations from his wife. She doesn’t have to listen to her husband or even do anything for him if she doesn’t feel like it. That she can cheat, abuse, and divorce him whenever she wants.
Young women are allowed to sleep around and be hypergamous, vain, shallow, and unpleasant but young men must always “man up” and rescue them. It’s always the same thing from the youth pastor right types. Men are the problem and women are beyond criticism. The intelligent young man will immediately see that the “based trad” religious right is just another type of submission to women.
On top of this the whole Christian religion is completely zombified and only the most annoying online personalities pretend revival is around the corner. They don’t understand passion of the anima in men and as you said hate desire it itself. The life denying strain of Christianity runs as strong as ever.
This is too long but anyway great article Gildhelm.
Christianity is just a tool. It's not going anywhere. It's useless because it was supposed to be useless. Priests and jews just sell your own values back to you. If they're working to destroy your society, it's because your society decided that it had no charisma, and that destroying itself was holy.
If your society can be destroyed simply by amplifying your own society's values, your values are ... unsound. You need the divine right of kings. Charisma.spiritual gifts. Magic. Christianity is somewhat useful for arriving at these things.
These words from the vitalists I find more inspiring than any self-negating commandment. From the school marms, to the priests, they always seek to diminish or smother me with their rules.
“A subtle change in messaging is therefore suggested to the political movements of today, which is entirely achievable: for the first time in generations, permit, encourage, and allow young men to breathe. That is, to express itself for what it ought and wills, to actually be alive as this word is properly understood. In return for this, they will follow you to the stars.”
YES.
It’s bizarre that Benjamin has his location on X set as ‘Merry Old England’ yet is advocating for some type of Puritanism.
where the hell is this "exer-expanding welfare state?"